Desperate for a pee with no trees or bushes to hide behind

Harriet

New Member
Probably a silly question, and not something I've had to deal with yet, but how do you manage going for a pee when there are no landscape features to hide behind.

I realise the chaps can just turn around, point and be done, but what about ladies, how do you preserve your modesty when you are desperate for a pee out in the wilderness. Do you just ask everyone to turn around and look the other way until you are done?
 

Phoenix

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Actually, yes, pretty much. Ask the rest of the party to turn around, walk away to put a bit of distance between you, quick drop, tinkle, and then shout up to say you are done.

Top tip: If the wind is blowing hard make sure you face into it so as not to soak your pants. DAHIKT. ;)
 

Spinney

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Actually, yes, pretty much. Ask the rest of the party to turn around, walk away to put a bit of distance between you, quick drop, tinkle, and then shout up to say you are done.

Top tip: If the wind is blowing hard make sure you face into it so as not to soak your pants. DAHIKT. ;)
I was on a winter walking course, and the instructor advised the male members that when adopting their standing up staring into the distance pose while relieving themselves, they should stand side-on to the wind. Apparently the vortices created by the wind flowing around the body can cause the liquid emanations to fall in unexpected places if standing with the back to the wind.
 

Andy_R

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I was on a winter walking course, and the instructor advised the male members that when adopting their standing up staring into the distance pose while relieving themselves, they should stand side-on to the wind. Apparently the vortices created by the wind flowing around the body can cause the liquid emanations to fall in unexpected places if standing with the back to the wind.
Or you could just bottle it and take it with you next time you plan on going walking with Bear Grylls.....
 

Spinney

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Carrying it out is an option at present. Just make sure you have a leak proof container.
Why would you carry it out in the UK? You have sheep peeing over most of the hills, a bit of human wee isn't going to harm anything.
 

classic33

Regular Member
Why would you carry it out in the UK? You have sheep peeing over most of the hills, a bit of human wee isn't going to harm anything.
Would depend on where you go. The nitrogen content can be high, too high for most plants. Its possible to see in some places where overuse has occurred, as a general background feature. Very little will grow, so wildlife moves on.

Do we have the right to contaminate the land that someone else relies on is another question. Even sheep will use/choose one area. We, as a species, have evolved into the fastest means of spreading disease worldwide.

http://www.adventures.org.uk/filestore/Disposing of human waste in the mountains.docx

Did a two day trip, in the UK, where nothing was left behind. We knew that before we went. Currently there is no need to "pack it out", but does no need mean we have the right to just get rid of our waste where we want?
 

Andy_R

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Would depend on where you go. The nitrogen content can be high, too high for most plants. Its possible to see in some places where overuse has occurred, as a general background feature. Very little will grow, so wildlife moves on.

Do we have the right to contaminate the land that someone else relies on is another question. Even sheep will use/choose one area. We, as a species, have evolved into the fastest means of spreading disease worldwide.

http://www.adventures.org.uk/filestore/Disposing of human waste in the mountains.docx

Did a two day trip, in the UK, where nothing was left behind. We knew that before we went. Currently there is no need to "pack it out", but does no need mean we have the right to just get rid of our waste where we want?
Interesting. There is some debate regarding nitrogen use, especially regarding what is known as the "nitrogen loop", whereby we import nitrogen into the environment (chemical fertilisers etc) and export it (flushing of huge volume of human urine through watercourses). By using human urine as a fertiser we work towards closing the nitrogen loop, much in the same way that we are tying to become carbon neutral. Human urine, after all, contains effectively the same propotion of nitrogen to pottasium and phosphurus as a standard fertiliser.

Sheep , by the way, do what they need to do wherever they are. They do not use one area. This is first hand information, gained from growing up on a farm in Northumberland. Anyone who has walked across a field that's had sheep in will know this.
 
Interesting. There is some debate regarding nitrogen use, especially regarding what is known as the "nitrogen loop", whereby we import nitrogen into the environment (chemical fertilisers etc) and export it (flushing of huge volume of human urine through watercourses). By using human urine as a fertiser we work towards closing the nitrogen loop, much in the same way that we are tying to become carbon neutral. Human urine, after all, contains effectively the same propotion of nitrogen to pottasium and phosphurus as a standard fertiliser.

Sheep , by the way, do what they need to do wherever they are. They do not use one area. This is first hand information, gained from growing up on a farm in Northumberland. Anyone who has walked across a field that's had sheep in will know this.
Didn't our ancestors 'go' outside before flushing loos were invented?
 

classic33

Regular Member
Interesting. There is some debate regarding nitrogen use, especially regarding what is known as the "nitrogen loop", whereby we import nitrogen into the environment (chemical fertilisers etc) and export it (flushing of huge volume of human urine through watercourses). By using human urine as a fertiser we work towards closing the nitrogen loop, much in the same way that we are tying to become carbon neutral. Human urine, after all, contains effectively the same propotion of nitrogen to pottasium and phosphurus as a standard fertiliser.

Sheep , by the way, do what they need to do wherever they are. They do not use one area. This is first hand information, gained from growing up on a farm in Northumberland. Anyone who has walked across a field that's had sheep in will know this.
The operatative word there being in fields, out of their natural enviroment. Any animal will be reluctant to eat what it has just "dropped it's load on". A group of people, using the same area will soon damage that area. Watercourses are supposed to be fenced off in fields, as part of what was REPS.

Human urine make an effective weedkiller, when used neat. Water it down and you get a decent fertilizer from a waste product. Nitrogen content being higher than that of normal farm fertilizers.

"Carry Out" could be a subject by itself.
 
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Slowandsteady

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Don't think I've ever seen "wild" sheep, what with them being domesticated animals that live in fields, but by the by....You mentioned "sheep will use/choose one area" - I've never seen that. They do their doings where they are, quite often eating whilst doing.....they're not bright enough to worry about food hygene :smile:, and as for urine making good weedkiller...well I've used it in the allotment to grow some spectacular root veg over the years - I was given advice to use it by a champion leek (no pun intended) grower.
 
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